Is it ethical to eat plants?

Plants may not squeal out in pain, but they're more like animals than you think.  When you look at time-lapse photography, plants do almost just about everything that animals do.  Perhaps the ethical case for eating plants isn't so clear cut.  From the NYT:

Unlike a lowing, running cow, a plant’s reactions to attack are much harder for us to detect. But just like a chicken running around without its head, the body of a corn plant torn from the soil or sliced into pieces struggles to save itself, just as vigorously and just as uselessly, if much less obviously to the human ear and eye.

When a plant is wounded, its body immediately kicks into protection mode. It releases a bouquet of volatile chemicals, which in some cases have been shown to induce neighboring plants to pre-emptively step up their own chemical defenses and in other cases to lure in predators of the beasts that may be causing the damage to the plants. Inside the plant, repair systems are engaged and defenses are mounted, the molecular details of which scientists are still working out, but which involve signaling molecules coursing through the body to rally the cellular troops, even the enlisting of the genome itself, which begins churning out defense-related proteins.

Plants don’t just react to attacks, though. They stand forever at the ready. Witness the endless thorns, stinging hairs and deadly poisons with which they are armed. If all this effort doesn’t look like an organism trying to survive, then I’m not sure what would. Plants are not the inert pantries of sustenance we might wish them to be.

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Human beings survive by eating other living things. I really want not only to eat, but to survive. Yet a nakedly logical way to judge the value of one kind of organism over another — the rightness of a plant’s death versus an animal’s — seems, to me, out of reach.

The article is interesting throughout.  Thanks to Meredith for the pointer.
 
   
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 We have 2 choices to

 We have 2 choices to survive: animal - based food or plant-based., Those who care for sufferings of animals - choose plant-based diet -- to minimise unnesaccary sufferisngs in this world. Do we feel compassion for plants - we do! But what else is left to eat to survive?  Animals are closer to humans by anotomy and physiology - therefore we can relate to them, so we choose not to eat them out of compassion .  Also by eating aminals people get  much dangerous health outcome than when eating plants --- heart diseases, for examples, cancers.. Animal cholesterol clogs human arteries - everything goes wrong with human health as a result of animal based diet. Memory goes bad, etc Humans were not meant to use anumals for fuel (food) . Meat - eaters age and die faster. It's hard for the body to constantly  process the animal dead flesh! Even milk and milk products are dangerous to humans. In contrary, eating fresh organic fruits and vegetables - full of life force- prana  --- excellent health results!  Another reson not to eat anumals is karmic reaction : it is less karma for eating plants, then for eating animals (read vedic scriptures).  

You might look at this

You might look at this critique of the China study: http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/07/07/the-china-study-fact-or-fallac/and this about heart disease and lipids: http://blog.cholesterol-and-health.com/2010/01/saturated-fat-is-not-asso... (there's good stuff all over that blog)Fruits and vegetable do rock though. More power to that.As for meat, I'm pretty sure that even in the whacky Indian raw-foodist diet it places meat as a useful food for reparing your body - for warriors etc.As for Kharma, I think that's a pretty complicated system you're talking about. I'm actually a fan of experimentation when exploring cause and effect.

 I would like to recommend a

 I would like to recommend a book on this subject. The Lost Language of Plants by Stephen Harrod Buhner it covers this topic in depth. One thing that I find interesting about this subject is that every hunter gather group ever encountered (as far as i know) believes plants  have a spirt that deserve respect. Something I think we may be wise to consider.   

Great article! Now I'm not

Great article! Now I'm not sure what to eat!

just breathe

just breathe

Great post.It's always been

Great post.It's always been facinating to me how people choose to draw lines around what is and is not a "valuable" or "worthy" life. Most often it seems to be easiest to place a higher value on something the closer it gets to being human (e.g., cute things with big brown eyes and fur that "feel" pain like we do like baby seals rather than something like a dandelion or endogenous gut bacteria). Boiled down to basic biology: a cell is a cell is a cell. We need to eat them to live and logically should appreciate/recognize equally the sacrifice of cellular life, both plant and animal, that it takes to keep our bodies alive.

 well put

 well put

For the most part, the moral

For the most part, the moral case for the ethical treatment of animals (whether that means full-on veganism, or merely letting them live a more natural life before they're slaughtered) boils down to the fact that (most) animals, like humans, can feel pain and can suffer. If it's the case that plans can't feel pain or suffer, then the defense mechanisms described above, while interesting, don't seem to be *morally* relevant. 

Agreed, and conscious pain

Agreed, and conscious pain and suffering is clearly an important distinction -- or THE important distinction. At the same time, the story of ethics is an expanding moral circle that encompasses things more and more distant from humans.

I follow the paleo diet and

I follow the paleo diet and eat a lot of meat. However, I disagree with this article.Fine, plants are living organisms and have adapations to aid in their survival. They don't have central nervous systems and they don't feel pain in the same way animals do. Using "well plants feel pain too" seems like a cheap way out of justifying meat consumption against the vegetarian stance of avoiding pain caused to non-human animals.There are plenty of good reasons and ways to consume meat. I don't think this is one of them.   

 just because they dont have

 just because they dont have the same type of nervous system animals due and may feel pain differently doesnt change fhe fact they feel pain.  its harder for us to relate to the way a plants functions since its very different from our own. that doesnt mean tbey feel less pain then animals when you harm them, it doesnt mean they feel more either its something we don't know as much about. 

 i really need to work on my

 i really need to work on my spelling and grammar. its not so great when im typing on my phone

That was honestly a very

That was honestly a very interesting point of view (not that your other post aren't  ;)   Just as many animals are in more danger of extinction than the panda, they're "not as cute" by many human standards, so they don't get their due attention. It's obvious why we relate on a more emotional level with beasts than with plants, but that's a great point to bring up with my vegan/vegetarian friends.Keep them coming, John!

 My long standing response

 My long standing response has always bee "at least my food had a chance to run before i killed it"

 I finally feel vindicated.

 I finally feel vindicated. I've been saying this for years to vegetarian and vegan friends, only to be scoffed at for trying to justify  "my cruel [carnivorous] lifestyle".